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October 10, 2008


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Don't forget

It's not only about bar passage, it's also about jobs. The WSJ did a story last year discussing the dismal state of the entry-level attorney job market. JD's are graduating into a glutted market, and sadly many of these people will NEVER be able to find work in any kind of legal capacity, whatsoever. How are minorities helped by sub-par schools that load them down with debt with no chance to be able to pay back that debt once they reach the other side of the tunnel?

Judge by the Content of Their Character

Wait, so the LSAT is "inherently discriminatory"? What evidence do you have that the LSAT discriminates against so-called "minorities" (not counting Asians, who don't count as "minorities" because they do as well as Whites even though they're a 4% minority of the population) besides the fact that blacks and Hispanics can't seem to do well on it? Do you seriously believe that plain English basic analysis, reading comprehension and logic games are somehow racist against anyone who is not White (or Asian)?

Since we're assume that a race-neutral test that result in racially disparate results is "inherently discriminatory," the NBA is 80% black so obviously the requirements for professional basketball are "inherently discriminatory" against Whites, Hispanics, Asians and American Indians.


Let's cut to the chase and attack the Bar Exam since that is "inherently discriminatory" too.


Call me a racist, but isn't it reasonable to believe that blacks and hispanics are more likely to get foreclosed on because they are more likely to not pay their bills?


The problem is admitting people who cannot pass the bar. Somehow tweaking the LSAT does not solve the underlying problem. Look at it this way:

Under the current LSAT person X gets a 145, gets admitted to law school, and fails the bar. After your tweak of the LSAT, the same person gets a 160. They will still fail the bar. It is the same person. You will just make the LSAT a poorer predictor of bar exam success. In other words, the LSAT is only "inherently discriminatory" if it indicates that as a percentage of takers, more minorities will fail the bar than actually do fail the bar.

I wonder if LSAT scores for minorities would rise if more of them could afford the fees for LSAT prep courses? "Plain English basic analysis, reading comprehension and logic games" may not be inherently racist, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that the average US public schools (much less those in less affluent and/or urban areas) provide good foundation for development of critical thinking. Sadly, college education does not seem to be making up for such deficiency. While LSAT serves a purpose, believe that greater emphasis should be paid to undergrad GPA and curriculum - judging work and progress over 4 yrs vs. performance on stressful 1-day exam. Won't even go into my personal opinion re: viability of most T3/T4 law schools...

ancient 80s grad

The premise that is obviously missing is whether higher LSAT scores are correlated with higher bar exam passage rates. If so, then it is not unreasonable for law schools to want higher LSAT scores, assuming that they want to stay in business. I suspect the LSAT is really just the messenger that is explaining that certain minorities are not getting the education they need to compete on the test, not that the test is somehow racist or non-predictive.


Idiot. Although this isn't state action, see Washington v. Davis. htfh.

Absolutely some people cannot afford LSAT prep class. Therefore these should be eliminated. Also, some people can't afford a High Quality UG school. So all colleges but those who are willing to provide an education for free should be eliminated. Also, some people had to work during high school and therefore could not do their homework and therefore got bad HS grades and therefore didn't get into a good college and therefore couldn't afford prep classes. The solution here is to eliminate High Schools. I would suggest administering the LSAT at birth, however some people are born in hospitals in low-income areas and the testing environment might be skewed. So i guess we're stuck with the LSAT existing as the only imperfect system in the world...

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